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77 el Camino SS


This was my 2016 Christmas present from my Aussie Sam (Australian Shepherd dog)

77 el Camino SS.  There are probably less than 500 of these left.  It has a crate 300 hp 350, t 350 trans , 3.42 posi rear ended.the car is jet black.  Frame on restoration.  It drives like a 40 year old new car.  Actually very nice.  These are the largest, heaviest and least popular of the el Caminos. However the SS version has much stiffer suspension and shocks heavier front sway bar and very quick steering. 3 turns loc to lock.  This is all topped of with the B body suspension which includes taller spindles, improved  caster, camber, toe geometry. ( doesn't need much help from after market parts) and boxed longer rear control arms.

Its downfall was the lousy engine forced by emissions.  Mine gets around that by a new much more modern and efficient motor.

this car has AC, PW, PS, PB, full new interior, new bucket seats, custom floor mats, B&M shifter, all new glass, new dash with round Gages , pioneer stereo, full flow master exhaust.

i just added 255-60-15 BF Goodrich TA fronts and 275-60-15 rears all on 8" rims.

coming attractions are rear sway bar, heavier front sway bar, taller upper ball joints, offset upper a arm shafts, custom front ent alignment, possibly inch lower ride height, swivel seat bases.



-- Edited by bentwings on Wednesday 29th of March 2017 09:25:36 PM



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Very nice.....Those cars were huge, but rode real nice, had a couple of Lemans back then. I had a 68 el Camino and almost bought a brand new one in 78 when the downsized them.

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Nice ride for sure! Always loved El Caminos!


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Thanks for the compliments.

Yeah, the car is pretty big by today's standard. The SS version rides much different from the standard models. Already with the big tires it is very nimble. This one has a Quadrajet carb but it must have been reworked a little as it works very well. Coming from a Holley guy. The car has a 2400 converter so it gets moving pretty well for a big car. Going around round abouts and freeway cloverleafs it doesn't wallow and plow like the standard ones do,it just digs in and scoots. It's not as good as my T Bird super coupe was but pretty close plus I think it would out run it easily. When those sewer size secondaries open, really gets with the program.

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Very nice. Love the elco. I am a A/G body guy.

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Sewer size secondaries!!! That's funny...they sure do run great when you get em set up right!

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I agree. I well tuned Qjet runs good and sounds great when they open up!

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Very nice and very clean, I call that a score.



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I've had a few quadrajets but none that run as well as this one. Interestingly all the emission stuff is hooked up except the AIR pump. I'm pretty sure this motor is cleaner than the original. Minn does not do emission testing. The state discovered it was costing the state a lot of money for these tests that proved nothing so it was done away with years ago.

The motor runs so well that I'm just going to leave it alone for now and just concentrate on some minor chassis improvements. I'll do each one and test so I know what happens with each.

I got a pile of documentation with the car plus a bunch of restoration info. The car actually only has 70k miles on it and 7 k since restoration.

Going cruising tomorrow

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Keep us posted as you do each improvement..sounds like a great ride!

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Does it still have the air shocks on it?

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Yes, they are new. They came on the car. I don't especially care for them so I replace them at some point.

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Yeah I never really cared for air shocks myself.

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My 65 still has the original airshock tubing. I was going to remove it but thought I might need it if the new regular shocks didn't work, but no problems. Do you have sway bars front and back? 



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They are good because they have lots of adjustability. But I find they are stiff.

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There is a front bar. It's 7/8" solid but really needs to be much stiffer. It's in all new energy suspension bushings so it works fine. It's on the agenda to be replaced however 1 1/8 or 1 1/4" . Probably from Detroit Speed. They make the best.....and most expensive.

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like the camino my dad had one with a 502 he put in was a fun ride got rid of the car and kept the engine ......................................BEAR

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I've added the 1 1/4" solid front sway bar. Simple job. An hour and fifteen minutes from the time I drove into the shop until I drove out. Included sweeping the floor and putting my tools away. The hardest part was lifting the 20 pound bar and screwing in fasteners while on my back with limited clearance. Everything bolted right in.

Road test...the drive through the park was fun! Lots of curves. Then the roundabout. A lot faster than I should have but amazing how well the big car handled.

It needs a rear bar too but only one co. makes an axel mounted one for fourth gen el Camino. All others are like the stock ones that just connect to the lower control arms. This actually causes a bind situation and causes the rear end not to track true. So I'm going to do the good one next. I couldn't get it right away as it ships from the factory through Summit. It was $90 to ship it so I'm just going to wait and order from Summit free shipping and wait a month to get it. Mean time I'm looking for excuses to go cruising. LOL. Rain today snow last week end. I did go out but it took two hours to clean the car up.

This gen is not popular at all but I think the original base versions gave it a bad rep. The stock motors are very weak dogs....best put to sleep.LOL. I have only a 300 hp crate motor but a ZZ 4 383 would be a perfect motor with a solid 200r4 and 3.42 gears. BBC are a lot more work and more expensive but are a bolt in. An OD is nice but not worth changing just for mpg. It takes forever to justify cost based on mpg. But on conversions it's a good idea. Just make it strong enough.

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I also took the Willys out for a 50 mile cruise. No real problems. It still likes to flood on sharp corners so I'm going to lower all four floats again. I did this years ago and it didn't work, it leaned out instead. So I'm just going to try it. I didn't have gaskets for the needle seats. ?..I really didn't want leaks, so I'll get them tomorrow.

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Funny how a small change like a sway bar can have dramatic impact on handling! I've driven cars with and without those bars...what a difference!..

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Yeah my SS came stock with the 1 1/4 inch bar in front IIRC.makes a difference from my non- SS car.

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