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replacing door skin


got to sanding on the passanger door it's been hit, probably could have fixed it but the last guy was eager to drill and pull so its full of drill holes and they pulled the dent out to far then hammered back in from the looks of it. The door structure is in good shape just the skin is wrinkled up and the body lines are gone so im thinking of reskinning, maybe try that glue. has anyone ever skined a door or used the glue instaed of spot welding? 



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I dont like the glue method just because once its set, theres no going back. Tiny mistakes happen all the time and its easy to be just a slight bit off aligned, then you have to wobble out hinge points and split differences and get a mediocre job out of the deal. Peel the old one off, clean off the old glue and crap, straighten it out where things should be, then Ive always fit my skins on with this. My first skin with it was the only one ive needed to glaze finish after using it. Its pretty easy to perfect using it and the fact of not needing to do filler work, then priming, saves a LOT of time.  Dont forget to Ecoat the inside of the door shell edge to keep rust away.

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Then fit it on the car, vice grip the belt molding side to side, then just open the door and throw on a few heavy tacks, and check the door gap after each tack.  then on the back side, easy coat has a direct to metal safe seam sealer that works great.  I mask off about 1/8" all the way around the door on the skin side, then about 1/4" from the freshly rolled pinchweld.  I smear a smooth layer over the whole taped off area to make sure its pressed firmly into the crack, then i run another tall bead on top of that, then lightly run my finger along it smoothly.  wait a minute or so, then peel the tape off and it will be fairly close to the factory seam sealer look.  then just a scuff and off for paint!



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thanks timbo, I'll check it out



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That tool is pretty expensive, so if you know any local body guys that would let ya borrow it, that's the way to go. Otherwise just taking your time with the old body hammer and dolly about 7-10 passes over every pinch weld to get from 90* to flat. Then once ya start getting it flat, stay away from the "ding" sound of the dolly on hammering. Dinging will just start stretching the skin.

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about $250 I might see what a body guy would skin it for and then i could do the tack weld once i got the fit



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forgot to tell you that i decided i better look the rest of the car over good before to much is done. when i first lookd at it i stomped the floor boards and looked inder the car, it seemed solid enough. Today I pulled the seats and carpet I didnt know GM used plywood for floor boardsconfusebehind the seat. easy enough fix just cant believe what some people do.



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Haha oh man. Turning into a basket case? The nova I did a long time ago, we did that jumping on the floorboards to make sure they were solid. Well they were. We pulled up the carpet and there was 1/4" aluminum plate riveted to the floor. Haha

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Yep just enough of the floor boards left so when looking under it, it looked like it was in good shape. The plywood was behind driver seat the pas. side had what looked like an old TV tray haha



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hahaha, some fancy patchin. ive seen um purdy bad. i drove an old dodge truck on a job one time. the floor was gone. i thought i mite fall throuh and run over myself. the seat did fall through as far as it could one day. i used a couple old metal trash cans to fix er up with some 1.5x1.5 angle iron braces. looked terrable but kept my tookus off the ground.

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Lol. I did a quarter on an old 57 4 door chevy suburban and when I went to rip out the interior panels, someone patched the quarter with half a stop sign.

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trying to line the door up with the fender. The skin is after market and a little short at the bottom. The door needs to come in from the bottom as well, the problem is I need to loosen the hing but the bolts are so rusted that nothing will get them out. you know the 3 big phillips screw head bolts thems the ones. I put PB blaster on them inside and out even hung the door up so it would run down threw the threads but nothing. any ideas



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A little heat is all I can think of right off...smile



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