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Hey MrWizard Here's a Buick for Ya !


It's been a Long Time since  MrWizard has Visited us . Maybe this will get his attention biggrin

Here is the Info on this Bad Azz Buick .



I bought this 1970 GSX Buick where I worked at the time. I was sponsored by GM and Toth Buick. I bought the car to race. I raced 1 year with the Stage 1 motor turning 11:30's ET which is also a national record. I only lost once in 5 years. Car now has a Stage IV motor and never raced with 560cid and over 1200hp. No expense spared on engine. A fresh motor. Also, 400 Turbo transmission, 4800 stall and 4:30 gear ratio. Body is 99% original. Never damaged. No roll bar and not tubbed. All drivetrain comes with car including tires, wheels, motor, transmission and rear end. Seller will ship these items to new owner and they are included in the sale price. Actual mileage is 16,000 miles, though odometer reads less then 32,000 miles. The cause of the discrepancy between actual miles and the odometer is due the fact that the speed gear was never changed and had a 364 gear, but for the life of the car has had a 478 gear. Also rear end has extra control arms.



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-- Edited by TANGO on Tuesday 28th of September 2010 11:57:17 AM

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OMG Tango, talk about a spirit lifter thas one for me for sure. Thanx ever so much my friend.
I have no real idea what the car runs but from the underhood glimpse i see an intake that i once used on a 430 Buick back in the day and without a whole lotta cam or ANY aftermarket exhaust work i was able to bruise most of the local Little Rock Hot rodders who were true street cars with the engine in a 1969 Chevy Biscayne ex-ark state police car i'de bought from auction.
The car HAD a 390bhp police interceptor 427 in it when i got it which musta been on its last leg since by the time i got back from a tri to Memphis was knockin like nobody's business.
Made a hella deal on the whole engine Trans combo to a friend who had a SS396 auto 69 Camaro RS/SS. The friend didn't want of have use for the body and asked if i wanted it back or he junk the thing out. I had the 430 n TH400 that came from a burned out 67 Buick Wildcat Convertible i caught before it went to salvage so i married the Biscayne and that engine combo and got a deal on the same Kenne Belle 2 x 4v intake that is on that GSX's engine tho i used a couple 600cfm Carter carbs on mine. I figured the TQ of the 430 Buick n its 360bhp/445lb/ft TQ ratin would b bout equal to the 427 and thus the car would run about the same. It ran even better and after the addition of the Kenne Bell Intake and a GS113 cam from Poston Enterprises i simply added an EQ tube to the stock dual exhaust i'de mated to the Buick Exhaust manifolds a set of L50 x 15 Mickey Thompson street tires and a full set of Cragar SS mags w/ the stock 3.23 Posi rear the car came with, and a cheapo B&M shift kit to the trans which was a switch pitch Buick version. The car gave many a much smaller and lighter hot rod the blues not to mention anything in its size class that i ran into on the street until it was stolen 2 years later.
I haven't been in of late to post because of some personal issues that we all often go through which usually comes in 3's begining when my Lesabre burned. I am now emerging from the third and i hope final of the 3 and starting to get back on track with my remaining projects. I'll b touching base with the forum more often now and again, thanx for ALL the KUDO's and support guys that i have enjoyed on the forum, AND thanx again for the Buick photo's too. Being a GSX car i suspect that might b a rare Stage 2 Option auto car. which would b an extremely rare car since 90% of the Stage 2 optioned cars were 4spds. Even if it was a Stage 1 in the GSX it came with an extra 10hp over the 360hp 510lbft rated(wink) base model Gran Sport for a (BIG wink) 370hp 515BTQ brate. A more realistic rating would have been around 410 for the reg Stage 1 and well over 425 for the GSX Stage 1. The Stage 2 was rated at 390hp 526lb/ft TQ but a rate of somewhere at or above 450hp n 530lb/ft TQ would have been much more realistic. In fact, contrary to popular belief the reg Gran Sport w/ the 360 rated mtr was widely accepted by every mag that tested one as the fastest production sedan produced i 1970, not the Hemi cars, not the LS6 cars and not the big mtred Ford intermediates. The reason others did not reconize the Buick as the quickest is because most of the others trapped at an average of 3-5mph faster than the Buicks did but did not have as quick an ET. Back then everyone assumed the greater trap mph meant the faster car and assumed the faster car also meant the quicker car. Today we ALL know that is quite often not the case.

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HEY HEY fellas and a belated Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to all indeed.
Been out of circ for a time, had to deal with a rather ugly divorce which will be final on the 20th of Jan. THEN i can start top get back on track with my projects. Don't know if i had posted it or no but I no longer have the Silverado or the Lesabre, both lost to FIRE!!!!! Fortunatl\y both were fully covered and though i DID loose a bit as you always do in something like that, it was far far better than it well COULD have been. I have already REPLACED the 92 Silverado w/ a 96 GMC Sierra 1500 and i yet have both my winter 355 and my summer 406 from the Silverado but sold the trans to a friend in need with his hot rod SBC S10 since i wasn't using it RIGHT then, figured i'de help someone else out a bit, let it multiply and come back to me later.
I haven't yet replaced the lesabre though i yet have both engines and the trans from that on hand, as well as its 3500rpm verter and all but the solenoids of its 2 stage spray system. Thinkin if i can't find a 2 door duece to put my pieces in i may go for elate 70's to early mid 80's 2dr Delta Royale or 98, failing that ima do some swappin n trading, move up to a 455 vs the 403 Olds and put all my pieces into a 78-80 Coupe Deville. That oughta b da sleeper from hell if i do it right HUH?? LOL.
Will be getting in to kick it with u guys more often now that i can see the light at the end of the divorce tunnel. Hope everyone is progressing as planned on all their projects and everyones family is well and healthy when ya read this. God Bless ya Tango and guys, friends like u folk are indeed hard to come by these days and i certainly appreciate that to the fullest...take care and i'll get at ya'll again soon.

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It's good to Hear From you MrWizard . And glad to Hear you will Soon be Happily Divorced . Any way you Look at a Divorce it's Never a Good situation to go through . And starting over is harder as you get older . We are here for you Guy through Thick and Thin . Lets Think about the warmer Weather in Spring Time and Build us some Hot Rods that will Hit the Streets . Stop in when ever you can Bud smile COOL


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UPDATE ladies n gents... DIVORCE FINAL, took a big hit but it was o so worth it now!!!!
wasn't able to get any of my heavy hitter toys onto the streets this year due to lack of funds and breakage but lookin forward to a great season comin up next year, BIKE, BMW and the TRANS AM all should b back on the road in full swing...
T/A now has a Tremec TKO600 5spd Od Trans w/ 2.72 lw n .64 OD 5th, stronger than stock super T10 w/ deeper 1st gear n an OD, now 80mph is well under 2000rpm so the 455 H.O. is jus loafing, AND i went to a big Comp Cams Solid flat tappet .587int x .594exh 302* int x 308* exh n finally Ported the heads n intake. er1 expected that @ std bore n stock 7.9 - 1 comp that was way too much cam n i'de have no low end, prob is, i KNOW MORE ABOUT how to make a Pontiac run with FACTORY STOCK perf pieces than they do since when i began racin Pontiac's n BOP's in general back in the early-mid 60's 75% of the perf parts for em cam from GM, as far as the best performin pieces anyway, what actually happened is the power band moved from 2400rpm - 6000rpm w/ the old stock Ram Air IV cam that 455 H.O.'s come with( as does the 455 S.D n 428 H.O. as well as the street 421 S.D. the former began w/ a 345bhp rate that ended w/ a 315bhp rate n the lower comp 455 H.O. that replaced it my car came with had a 290bhp rate, the latter 2 both had a 376bhp rate, same as the Ram Air V 400 tho that was a solid lifter engine with what was termed a more agressive cam profile than the Air 4) to 3000rpm-6500rpm, now the car runs the same thing on mtr that it used to run on the 1st stage of spray n a tad quicker on the 1st stage than it used to on both stages...the breakage began to occur when i began leavin on the 1st stage n hittin the 2cnd stage jus b4 the 2cnd gear shift...seems a 28 x 11.5 x 15 MT ET Street n 3.08 gear behind the ole 455 H.O. is now a tad more than the 8.5" Bop wit moser 28's n moroso brute carrier w/ richmond street gear can tolerate, which means its more than the car can take w/o a cage, which is something it is far to rare to cut up n add( still get arguments that no 77 n later T/A CAME factory equiped w/ a 455 as mine DID according the the build plate n vin tag, but ya know how THAT goes w/ da know it alls, rather the THINK they know it alls( admittedly i used to believe the same thing tho when i didn't know any better). Plan is to go back up to the stock 3.42 n use a softer 3000# center force diaphram P plate Vs the Ram 3600# 1 now in the car, PLUS a stock posi for a lil MORE slip...it feels like the way the car runs NOW i will still b quicker n faster on both stages than i was before the cam change n headwork as well as on the mtr n jus the 1st stage...mid - low 10's vs mid- hgh 10's w/ roughly the same best 1.57 60's. Still a bit over 11.50's on mtr so i can still run mtr n sand bagg the track for suckers on the street later...got such a rep for spray no1 will believe im not sprayin at the track too ())))))
The Bmer i never got sorted out w/ the lil mtr due to lack o funds, in fact never even got it out w/ it, the Stage II mtr is done pretty much w/ a done set o EDELBROCK alum Stage II 455 Buick hds, another 1500 or so will fasten it up LONG block. usin a production block n there is still the girdle to b machined for n bout 1100 more in machining n balancing endin up costing me bout 3k more than the Stage I thas in the car, bout the cost o the alum vs production iron heads n porting, these i HAD done at Finish Line Mtr Sports, while the iron Stage I's on the lil mtr i did myself after findin a set o 70' spec castins for 300 complete. The lil mtr is a 74 block w/ 74 nod crank, while the big mtr is a 73 block w/74 nod crank...all 455 Buicks have forged steel rods stock even the non stage engines but till 74 only the stage engines had a nod crank, the rest were plain cast. im expectin to drop that in near the end o the season next year after i get all i can outta the Stage I. Stage I engine has a .517int x .523exh 296*int x 302*exh 105LS x 107LC flat tappet hydraulic called a GS105A from Poston Ent. Stage II has a .604int x .623exh- 302*int x 314*exh-105*lc x 106* ls TA perf flat tappet Solid( production buick block lifter valleys do not well tolerate ROLLER SOLIDS w/o quite extensive n EXPENSIVE mods in that area; includin a 600 buck valley brace kit that requires bout 300 in machinin to install... seen quite a few go this route but spec for spec the rollers do not perf appreciably better than the Flat Tappets but cost more n have a far shorter spring life, too short 4 street drivin like i do. know of a 493" Stage II 455 Stroker w/flat tappet solid that runs jus a tad slower ET n more mph than a solid roller stroker 493" Stage II in vitually the same car...actually the roller mtr is in a plain jane skylark while the flat tappet is in a LOADED GSX w/ the same 3.64 axle ratio's tho roller mtr car uses a 28" tall tire while the flat tappet uses a 29", both are 12 wide tho.
The Ninja gets a frshen up, new clutches n steels n a new chain.
Buuuuuuut as u know, " the best laid plans o mice n men".....()))))
BTW, good to b back guys, been missin u folk n ur input...thanx folks!!!!

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Great to hear from you MRWizard where all still here Building a Few things and talking about Building some more things ha-ha . I can't Let ya Have all the Fun can't wait for Spring Time Like always . Post some more Photos of that Buick Powered BMW that is a Cool Build

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